Good evening.

Your host for this evening was more preoccupied than previous evenings or encounters as she was giving importance, or significance more so to tonight's meeting than she had done to some of the others.

The only reason for this emotional reaction to something that is perfectly natural and is something she has experienced in the past is the stories she had created around them and we choose to use this as an example of how you create stories that then affect your state of being.

The story was that too much time had passed since the last transmission or that she didn't remember how or what to do, or that tonight's transmission was more public or had the potential of having people she did not know or did not feel close to, participating.

And of course none of these are truths. Had she spent the day thinking about puppies. Her life for this day would have been substantially more pleasant.

And so as we invite her to relax, we invite you too to relax and to know that most of what you think and believe yourself to be are stories. And while these stories have their use in leading you towards further expansion, as you discover subsequently that they are not true.

A short cut would be to simply let them be. Watch them run across the page of your life as the observer, whether they are thoughts or sensations or feelings and to enjoy whatever your metaphorical puppy is instead.

We are here to answer questions tonight.

We are excited to have a variety of new beings --new to us and yet not new to us.

We are new to you and not new to you, but, this possibility of exchange is new to both of us and we are excited for that and look forward to shedding the light that you already knew onto anything that you would like to inquire into.

Please.

Q01: : Thank you well I have a question. My partner reflects to me my darkness well, and I feel pain about that, is there anything that you can share on how to navigate relationships, when I feel pain, on seeing this unloved neglected part of me, and then I project that, back on to the person who is mirroring that to me.

V: There is no other self, not truly. You talk of a mirror and yet you are not looking into it as if it were a mirror. You are not playing ping pong... projecting one onto another and then back onto the first. What you are doing is gazing at more of yourself. And so this darkness that you claim, we believe, the audio was scarce, you claim he draws out of you, was that correct?

Q: Hm, yeah, he basically mirrors my belief that's already there.

V: Yes perfect! That is perfect! Do you like the belief that he is mirroring?

Q: -laughs- Hmm, yes but sometimes it’s still painful.

V: And so he is also mirroring the belief that this has to be painful.

Q: Yes, Good point.

V: We tend to, and by we in this case, we mean all, all tend to see in the mirror only what one wants to see in the mirror. At times, this can be our faults that we have blown out of proportion. Someone does not like their nose, they will have trouble seeing the beautiful color of their eyes for they will be focusing on their nose.

Likewise, sometimes we look in a mirror and we see only what is convenient to see, perhaps we do not see are an old scar because we are so used to it being there that it becomes invisible to us. And, there is nothing we can do about it anyway, and so we leave it, out of our field of awareness until someone says “Oh, how did you get that scar on your forehead. Then suddenly we are very self conscious of the scar. We remember that it is there. Perhaps, how we got it, how painful that was or how we remember it to be painful. And we do not like that this person has pointed it out to us.

The belief that makes us feel the most uncomfortable in this situation, is that there is nothing one can do about the scar...when there is.

Q: Is there more you’d like to share on that topic?

V: Is there more you’d like to ask on that topic?

Q: Not at this time.


V: Thank you


Q: And I have another question.

V: Please.

Q02: What would you have to say when one is hunting for their core, and negative core beliefs but can’t seem to transform it. How would you answer that?

V: There is truly no benefit in hunting for negative core beliefs because your entire existence is structures in a way to reveal them to you.

So our suggestion would be to relax and watch as circumstance and situations show you moment after moment both what this belief is and how to release it. There is no urgency, in this. You have come into incarnation for in part, this activity. The beliefs that you accumulated that do not serve you, over time if are hidden at this moments, are hidden at this moment because it serves you that they are hidden at this moment and they will be revealed at the moment it is necessary and possible for you to dismantle and release them. Until that point, hunting for them and chasing them is possibly distracting you from what's happening in this moment and what can be released in The Now.

You are like an onion, each layer of your skin more and more juicy and closer to the core. But, if you tried to cut into that core without fully peeling the onion. You are simply damaging the bulb.

You can practice patience and self love and knowing that there is nothing wrong with you and nothing that needs to be resolved. If you are aware of the core belief as you are hinting towards, or at least partially have an understanding of it...then it is possible you need to, or would benefit from, forgiving yourself for having that belief in the first place.

You did not choose it. And so it is safe to allow it to be there. And to allow yourself the grace of knowing that it was not your fault to have adopted it.

Once you truly believe that a belief is no longer serving you, you will let it go naturally.

There is nothing you have to do except open your hands. If it has not been released yet, no matter how negative it may seem, or how it might impact your existence in a way that is not preferred to you, it is still serving in some way. And yes, there are those that would tell you to rush and try harder and do more for releasing these beliefs and these are well meaning beings who you have created as permission slips to accelerate but remember that all is as it should be.

There is no prize for assembling the puzzle in the correct order. And you may take as much time as you like. For there is no time. How boring it will be when everything is exactly as you think it should be.

Q: Thank you.

V: Thank you.


H: And then if anyone else of course has questions please put that in the chat.
Petra, I will unmute you.

Q: Hello Hello can you hear me well.


V: Yes.


Q03: Ok, Great. My question relates to the question that was answered beforehand.[23:22 23:22]and It seems to me at the moment that I don’t understand the message that life wants to give me. In the last couple of months, it seems I have split energies in my system. I get inspiration for creativity, I have lots of enjoyment, and doing things, preparing for, [ being more organized 23:54 23:54] (audio distortion here ] creative events, workshops or my art that I want to sell, but then there's another energy coming into that and it seems to fall apart. An energy of unworthiness. So, I create art and I want to sell it and nobody purchases it. I want to create a workshop and nobody shows up and so on. I want to organize an event with lots of enjoyment nothing happens,lit it seems like seem to receive failure after failure and I'm not sure whether this, the message in all of this is “look at this unworthiness” and I don't know how. It seems this voice is saying constantly “it's not going to work out anyway because of you, because nobody wants you.” And this is a very deep unworthiness belief in my system, it seems. That it's showing up over and over again. Or that life wants me to do other things, than what I have thought it wants me to do. So the question is how to let go of insistence on the outcome that I feel happening over and over or how to or whether I’m asked to surrender completely to life or ask to go deep into this unworthiness. I’m just very confused about what life wants to tell me now.

V: We enjoy this question because within it you have already done our job and answered it.


[Laughter]


We will point to perhaps several areas where you have not seen the answer in your own question and this may bring some relief.

The first was in the first sentence of the question where you said that you are not understanding life or the message that life is trying to tell you and we will counter that with our own question of “Do you need to understand?”


[Laughter]

Q: My mind wants to understand it desperately because I just don't know how to perceive from now. I don't know what to do.

V: What safety will you have when you finally understand?

Q: oh, I think i will have total relief of knowing the direction.

V: How insistent are you on your idea of how life should be?

Q: Very. out of fear losing self control or out of fear of the unknown or out of fear of just being stuck in loops, endless loops, so I do, notice a lot of insistence on the outcome right now.

V: Well, if we were your teacher or parent, or the headmaster of your school.. we would give you the lesson that is most conducive for you to have that sense of relief that you have decided that you would like.

And the only way for you to have that sense of relief, coupled with this sense of insistence, is to learn to let go of the insistence. And the only way to let go of the insistence when one is mo, excuse us, when one is very insistent, it is to teach them that their insistence leads to nothing.

Your inspiration, your art, your ability to connect beings together and create community are beautiful gifts you've been given. And they are valid. You know they are valid because of how they make you feel, so we will not validate you further because you know already.

The only reason why your projects don't come to a fruitful end is because you believe in a specific fruitful end.

You have not yet understood the class that you are taking. You believe you are taking the class of “Make a successful art career” or do this with my life to become fiscally independent or any number of other classes. You have not read the name of the class on the door.


{Laughter]

You are not in that class and we said you answered your own question because we did say, Yes surrender, but you cannot surrender to the class you think you're in” because that would be paramount to what you believe is a failure.

In the class you are in, surrender is the graduating lesson. The acceptance of the fact that your insistence is useless is the end of your studies. You think you know what your block is. And you do, but you speak of one and in truth it is the other.


Q: Can you say more on this ?


V: Yes, You do not need to try so hard. You do not need to push so hard because the pushing and trying is toward what you perceive as your best outcome. Your best outcome in the game that you are currently playing is to finally believe you do not know what is best for you. It is full surrender into the faith of the What Is.

But, and we hear your mind, any thoughts but what if I won't have any money? How do I feed myself? What if I'm not accepted by my peers… all these thoughts that come up when we talk of surrender, total surrender


Q: Yes


V: [30:58 30:58 audio distortion] … are still in that other game. [31:00 31:00]

You would do good to stand up from your seat and go to the door and open it and read what is on the door.


[Laughter]

This is not kindergarten, you are in an advanced class.

Anyone can be a successful artist or community leader. You are in the class of one who lets go completely and yes it's terrifying for you from your position now but you will see. And success will follow, if that's the insurance that you need. (small laugh) But by then you wont even care.

Q: (laughing) I totally resonate with that and my mind just wanted to ask you, do you see that successful follow ? Did you see that in my timeline?

A: No, not if you keep asking these questions. No success for you dear !

Q: (laughs) I understand. It's terrifying to surrender, but I feel that this is the only way to completely let go of the insistence on an outcome. Even though the natural outcome of creating an event would be to love people to attend it, but if nobody attending it is actually what I need to feel through, and what I need to accept and surrender to is what I am just going to do…

V: It's not even what you need. It’s what you want! You want to have this relief MORE than you want money... MORE than you want success. And we are not saying this, perhaps from your perspective this is taking as a criticism but its not, it's actually a joyful pointing to. You have chosen such a noble lesson to learn. To teach yourself.

Q: Hm.

V: You have not chosen to teach yourself how to make an ecourse that people come to. The lesson you are teaching yourself is part of one of the fundamental lessons of unconditional love.

Q: Yeah ,exactly. Thank you so much.


V: Thank you.

Q04: Hello! I am wondering what is important for us to realize, when it comes to trusting in what we know before things have shown up, in our reality ?

V: Well that is all you need to realize. Would you like to expand upon the question?

Q: I think it gets


V: if you trust what you know, things will show up in your reality.
You see the question comes from a place of not trusting what you know.

Q: So it’s when you do not have questions anymore you have the answer ?

V: Yes and no. There are questions that could serve to reveal more of yourself to yourself. But this particular question was very general and is not revealing to you much until you expand upon it and ask what you really want to know.

Q: I think I don't know what what I really want to know, so that almost feels like the question. “How to know what I really need to know?”

V: Well, you do not need to know anything. You can choose to know or want to know anything at all.

Perhaps in this question too, lies the answer in one word ‘need’ because when you believe that you need something. It is automatically a conditional case. “I need this” but for what? So, can you feel into the ‘for what’ of your question Your question was “What do I need to know?” At the end of this question, there may be in your heart a ‘for what’ and if you can feel into this and express it. It may help to clarify things for you, because that may give you a clue as to what you want to know.

Q: I think I want to know so that things are clear and I think I believe that I need to be clear about what I want for me to get it. So I can focus my energy in that direction, so I think my question is...is it important for us to know specifically what we want to move towards it, ?

V: No. You are always moving towards what you want. You cannot move in any other direction. A perfect example is your personal experience. You want clarity, or believe you need clarity and so you continue to move towards the belief that you need clarity. And this is what you want. In fact it is what you just stated that you wanted, You want clarity to know what you want. So you are getting what you want, which is clarity.

If you take this one step further you can start to actually feel into what you want!

You do not need clarity to know what you want. And you do not need to know what you want to get what you want. It is a bit of a loop.

The interesting thing is, you can choose what you want. It is not an external thing that happens to you or comes from programming inside of you or….a seed. Beings choose what they want. Even on a level of personal development and of course life experiences and material goods. Anything really, So you do not need clarity...you need to choose. Maybe you could spend time seeing what's out there and actively choosing what looks best to you. Because for a long time you have wanted to remain in confusion.

You can have anything. And we won't add the words ‘you want’ because we understand that is a subject that is tied in some knots. But you can have anything. And if you feel into those words and say them to yourself, you may have a flicker of something. Even something banal that appears and you can start there, but no, you do not need to know what you want to get it.

Is it caramel popcorn?
That was a joke, we apologize.


H: Kelly did you want to continue any more questioning ?

Q: (laughs)
I want to ask a question about something you said. You said 'on the topic of want' but that is, but we won't go there because that's tied in knots. I don't know if you said we won't go there,” What did you mean by the topic of wanting something being tied in knots.

V: Well, As you do not have clarity on that topic, of what you want, you have taken the concept of it “What do I want?” and instead of being able to answer that question directly, your answer is “I don’t know what I want.”

That is not a smooth answer to that question because you have allowed it to get tangled. It will untangle as you leave that answer alone. The reason why you had that answer, in the first place was because you’re holding unto a fear that you need to know the answer to that question, but as we have just stated, you do not need to know.

And so to go back to the original question, which was “What do we need to know before things appear”... in reality, is nothing.

You need to know nothing. But you can choose to know whatever you choose to know and you can choose to have whatever you would like. And you can choose to not know what you would like. It's just a game of choosing, like a candy store there are so many different colored candies in different colored containers on the wall, and scoops and bags and that lady who is looking at you as if you are going to steal the candies. And you can put anything you like in your bag, and you don't even have to eat them when you get home. You can decide you do not like licorice at the last minute, and your mother can yell at your for spending all that money on that licorice candy. And you can go back to the shop and choose different candies the next time. But if you continuously stand in the shop and look at all the jars and say “I don't know what I want”, well of course you are going to get nothing. And you will probably get kicked out of the shop because you are very suspicious to that woman.


[Laughter]

Q: Thank you.

V: Thank you.

Q05: I have a question about what would you say to someone who's asking...they don't know whether they should go toward the light or towards the dark. Meaning, to know themselves more, whether they could go towards their fear or toward something that feels better. Could you speak on that?

V: We don't believe we will, as it is a speculative question.

And not of a relevant nature to those here, although potentially to one who is not here. [48:05 48:05]

In any situation where there's awareness of the possibility of taking the road towards self or not-self...the amount of awareness that is required to make this decision, or to be aware of the potential of the decision, already speaks of one who knows self.

To this we can talk in an abstract way.

If one finds themselves in such a crossroads, it is probable that they are already spending time not heading towards self as the awareness of this crossroads is a form of tomfoolery.
If you're aware of the potential of going towards the light or going towards darkness, let's say, then you are playing games. There's no drama. There's no dilemma. At any moment you can choose and in the moment that you are having this conversation, this form of conversation, one if having this form of conversation, they are choosing simply to have this form of conversation. And they are not actually making a choice towards self or alternative.

Please keep in mind that there is no alternative to self, even darkness or pain or shadow or any focus upon that is more growth and is more of self. Without the specifics and the energy of the one of which you are talking it is difficult to generalize enough for it to be relevant to the group.

Q: Thank you.

Q06: Hello again. First of all, I love your humor. I really do. My question is… I receive many paradoxes in coming from different sources of channelings and my mind always wants to know why that is the case. For example, the whole empowerment teachings around creating exactly what you want and being able to manifest what you desire.. versus the teachings that say the incarnated self has no idea what this whole movement is and cannot know what is relevant for the path. So the the higher mind, the higher self, can only navigate it, as it perceives the mountain view so to say, so from a limited perspective of the incarnated self, we cannot know what is good for us. So we, there is no use in thinking “I want to manifest this and that” so I, this is one question regarding this and as I feel like I have manifested the opposites of what I actually desire.There is the feeling of resistance in me to any, to feel into what I actually want because maybe that's not what I want. So this goes into directions when, and then more general a question is: How is it that different teachings of channelings say what I perceive as opposites?

V: We spent an entire session torturing the vessel different flavors of soup.
and we will not do that again.

[ Laughter]


However we understand the question and will respond by talking of co creation and Individuation as it is arranged on your planetary matrix...intention creates reality. You may call intention thought, or desire but we will call it intention. And this can be conscious or semiconscious or subconscious intention. But, nevertheless, this is how each pixel of your reality gets placed in front of you.

The question about your different channeling sources coming from different schools of thought can be answered by looking both at your personal intention, which is to have several different messages arrive to you as well as allowing the fact that several different messages arrive to you to be a permission slip to continue your doubt. And, collectively co creation that involves not only the beings in your matrix but all the beings outside of it. And the selective call of the beings in your matrix of this type of communication..and their own personal desires and intentions, and so you will have beings who in their chosen learning on the planet will have a need for what you have called the empowerment teachings, for they are on a lesson plan of learning that they may create their own reality. Which is a lesson that is overdue on this planet.

There are others who have come to learn the lesson of letting go. And they will attract the channels that have this message for them. They will not hear the other channels potentially or they will hear them at the amount that is necessary for them to have their lesson as well as sub lessons. What is useful to understand and remember is that lessons are not contradictory, that channeled material does ultimately come from the same source as do you. But, in the same way...and we will torture the vessel a little bit now…. And in the same you go to a butcher shop and you see Phil and he cuts you a piece of meat on Thursday and you return the next week, and there’s Sharon and she cuts you a piece of meat that is slightly different and not to your preference...because Phil is home sick with some food-borne illnesses...You will have different messages from different channels because they are, in their way, individual as well. So Sharon or Phil are the same as Abraham-Hicks or Edgar Cayce. Everyone cuts the meat differently because there is a desire from their clients for the meat to be cut in that way. You seem to be going to several butchers.

Q: Yes


V: And so it is possible that you do not yet have a preference for how your meat is cut. Which is good because you get to taste many different cuts. And back to the candy store, you do not need to eat the licorice when you get home. It does not devalue any of the cuts of meat or any of the candy in the store that they are not all the same. But you get to choose what you prefer and as you do you will find that the messages get more and more similar. You will say to myself “I don't understand why everyone is saying the same thing” because suddenly they will be.

Q: I notice now there seems to be a contrad, like there seems to a belief in me that i need to decide t whether I either surrender and be ok with whatever arised or I say I decree that “this is going to happen in my life as the creator of my reality.”

V: Or you do not need to do anything.


You are choosing in every moment. It is the same as the one choosing between light and dark. They are not actually choosing between light and dark. They are choosing to pretend to be choosing between light and dark. You are not in a state of choosing. You have already chosen to pretend to be in a state of choosing.


Q: [Laughter] Yes.

Q: There seems to be a longing to decide which either or because there seems to be fluctuation that is exhausting. And there is, I seem to get a lot of energy out of empowerment phases and then I see ok I don't manifest what I wanted and then it's a huge disappointment, to avoid this disappointment then I surrender. You see?

V: Yes you still have not left the classroom and looked at the door.

Q: (laughs) Yes, I looked at the door again and the door said “Surrender”. Thank you.

V: Thank you.

Q07: I have a statement/question. Today I was hearing the channel Bashar speak about how since there's more than 8 billion beings here theres obviously then at least you know 8 billion-some paths. And so I reflected someone who I feel excited to share and teach and grow, through sharing, that all I can do is be myself and point others towards them being their truest self. And at times I feel hesitant to even share my own expression. I guess because of a belief that other people aren't sovereign and they will look to me for answers. So can you speak on being some sort of guide when ...what I want is for everyone to know they are their own guide.

V: Well first off, they are. Even if one looks to a teacher and claims to give away their power or have their power taken from them. These are illusions, the experience of whatever occurs with this displacement of self-sovereignty is pointing that entity back in the direction of their own self sovereignty regardless of the outcome of that interaction or relation. The energy you are speaking of, you believe to be humble, but it is arrogant to believe that you know better than another what is best for them.

The beings that your voice is meant to touch in some way and help expand in some way, will touch and expand them in a way that is applicable for them, even if it means them seeing you as somehow better than they are. And you cannot protect them from their own distortion in that direction. In fact, the catalyst that you potentially provide for them to be distorted more in that direction is simply revealing to them that distortion that was already there. And so this discussion of leaders having responsibility is true. But only in that they have a responsibility to remain integral to themselves with the knowledge that their action does affect others. But not to take responsibility for what that effect is. The doubt that you have, may point to a belief that you do not believe that you have the best interest of others fundamentally at heart, because if you knew that you did, you would be accepting of the fact that of the 8 billion who understood your message, there may be several who adopted it as dogma and interpreted it incorrectly.

You have an example, many examples in your history of completely selfless beings,come to teach of unconditional love, peace, oneness whos' words and image and vision have been twisted and millions murdered because of it. What would have happened had they not taught? We don't know. But we do know the benefits of their teaching, as well as the eventual confusions that arose from them.

You were not created and did not create yourself to be a 50% version of yourself. For that is a 50% of your energy used ...50% of your life lived ... and the other 50% wasted. Do not believe that you can control the outcome of others' experiences of you. They are sovereign and so you can feel free to be as well.

Q: Thank you.

V: Thank you. We will take one more question if there is.

Q08: Hmmm I’m curious. I know that setting the intention to remember or experience certain things in our sleeping, when we lay our heads on the pillow and go to sleep and have a dream, I know that setting the intention is powerful and creative and I to, I like the idea of playing with asking questions or setting intention. For those of us present, could you share anything with us around, as we prepare to go to sleep or around dreams that could benefit us, right now?

V: It is interesting to us, your perception of dreams. And there is a huge value in your dream state if you can lock onto an awareness of dreaming during the dream.

Lucid dreaming.

If this is possible for you, and it is, but if you've had this experience or intend for this experience…. You will have a taste of how powerful a creator you truly are without having to navigate the resistance that you normally have towards this in your waking state.

Of course both are equally malleable.

The difference is, in your sleep state you are less susceptible to your beliefs that they are not. Or that it is not. And so, if you intend to have a lucid dream before sleeping, of any form, and in the dream remember to play with reality in any way you choose, you will return to your waking state with the experience of having been able to modify in real-time reality.

We will give you an image of a sunset. In your dream, the sun is setting. It is just arriving, at the horizon, over the ocean, the waves are sparkling, the colors are changing in the sky. In this moment, you remember this conversation and you know that you must be dreaming because it what we have spoken of tonight.

In this moment, you choose to bounce the sun back into the sky. And so you send it shooting up as high as it can go until it is midday.

The colors leave the sky. It becomes a deep blue and just in that moment, you can also see the stars. It is day, midday, full shadows and the stars are out as well.

And now the sun sets again.

If you awake from a dream where you have played this game, and in this conversation we are collectively setting the intention that that is what will happen, you will have a more tangible taste of what is truly possible in your waking life.

And though resistance will not allow you to play basketball with the sky as you are walking to work the next day, it will allow you to have a chance encounter with an old friend or find a 20 pound note on the sidewalk. Or, catch the bus just on time.

So if we were to say what intention to set before sleeping we would say the intention to be able to be aware of being in a dream while in the dream and having free range to manipulate that dream in whatever way you would choose would be the most the beneficial intention to have for now, because you would have a better idea of how reality truly works ... and with that we say goodnight.

Q: Thank you goodnight.